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  Please note that the first review is from Dr. Armand M. Nicholi. Dr. Nicholi was moderator of the Harvard University documentary, The Question of God. Another reviewer states that she is recommending the book to Senator Richard Luger, two are from Christian ministers, and one is from a Professor of Physics.  
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 

Copied From: Amazon.com - Reader Reviews
Sent: January 12th
To: Amazon.com
Subject: Universal Truth?,

Reviewer: A reader

I do not normally take time to write reviews, but for this work I will make an exception.

I met Mr. Conway in Physics-chat and I have seen him suffer virulent personal attacks from both atheistic and religious believers alike, which I think speaks to the validity of his discovery.

For the longest time I resisted reading this book, because (as an atheist) I was convinced that there was no God. I must admit that Mr. Conway's research on the collapse of the ancient world has brought to light many things ignored by academics, either deliberately or in ignorance. I cannot say that I agree with all of the conclusions in The Awful Truth, but this work has forced me to reconsider all that I have learned in my years as both a student and physics teacher. I think it does present a plausible solution to the mystery of human existence that demands additional research.

The Awful Truth is well written, carefully researched and presented in a cogent manner that will be enjoyed by both scholar and amateur alike - quite an achievement!

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: Julie
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:01 PM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: The Awful Truth

Dear Patrick,

I just finished reading your book....Wow!!! How refreshing to hear the truth! I was fortunate enough to not have religion nor the Darwin theory forced down my throat growing up. I have always wondered why there are so many religions and how they could all fight for their beliefs, even to the death. It has always seemed to me that religion should be peaceful. I also feel that the pyramids were built with the help of supernatural forces and that the egyptians associated in some form with aliens/gods.

Your book however opened my eyes to many new ideas and I appreciate it very much! It would be great if everyone in the world would open their minds enough to read your book. I plan to to recommend your book to everyone I can and hopefully the truth will spread.

Good luck to you and your family!

Julie

 
 
 
 
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From: Label & Tag Inc.
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:24 PM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: The Awful Truth

Excellent work.

should be required reading for all high school students worldwide

(won't happen)

only hope is that people will turn off CNN or FOXnews long enough to actually pick up a book in the first place

(probably won't happen)

Rob W.

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: Name removed by Realists Intl.
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 8:31 AM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: Re: New Year's Message From The International Realists

DEAR MR. CONWAY,

I RECEIVED YOUR BOOK AND READ IT OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE I WILL TRANSLATE IT INTO URDU IN PAKISTAN. PLEASE CONSIDER GIVING ME COPY RIGHTS.

I AM WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER.

KARACHI (PAKISTAN)

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

From: Rev. Gregory
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:24 AM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: New Book in 2007.

Dear Patrick,

I have read and re-read your book "The Awful Truth" and find it fascinating. As a Lutheran pastor I find that I can agree with much that you write. The fulfillment of ancient prophecy with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD in indeed a very likely scenario for me. I do think that much of today's Christianity is obsessed with "Armagedden" expectancy to the detriment of the real message that should be out in the world. With the focus so centered on fulfilling a future prophecy the "Gospel" aspect toward mankind is lost at the expense of works righteousness, judgmental attitude of what truth is, which "god", etc

Too many, perhaps most, come from a "Law" point of view and what we must do in order to please a "god/God", thereby earning an eternal reward at the expense of loving one another as we should. What is missing is the idea of the "Golden Rule" as you express in your book, which in line with the "Gospel". The "Gospel" view, that is, that we want to or get to love our fellow man in works of service thus fulfilling our purpose or meaning in life.

I have used your site for my search; I am on the "IFZ" discussion site. I, too, am looking for a real solution to our existence on earth that will give true meaning and purpose.

Therefore, I look forward to your planned 2007 new book. Please let me know when it is published so that I too may continue my search for the truth, purpose, existence and meaning of life. Perhaps your new book should be entitled what your motto is "One Man, One God, One Truth."

A fellow searcher for the truth.

Rev. Gregory

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: Jacob
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:36 PM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: requesting to be placed on the list of "Advanced Copy Readers."

Patrick,

I have just finished reading the Awful Truth. WOW. Being a relatively new believer in Jesus Christ, this book has made me question many things. I am so very interested in your studies and arguments and I would love to be among the first to read your next book. Please inform me when you might be releasing this new book. I can hardly wait.

Thank you for your serious dedication to the truth and please know that you are only making a positive contribution towards society. If only everyone was as dedicated to the truth as you are then God would have probably taken all of us to heaven. Ha HA.

Keep up the great work.

Jacob

 
 
 
 
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  -----Original Message-----
From: Wade
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:19 PM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: Thank you!

Dear Mr. Conway,

I finished reading The Awful Truth (Complete) this morning. I have always been uncomfortable with our lack of knowledge/understanding of our true origin/place in the universe especially considering all that our science seemed to have going for it (human evolutionary theory aside). I was raised in a strict Christian home (my father was a Presbyterian minister). My parents so wanted me to believe as they did. Heck, I wanted to believe as they did, if only for the sake of my own immortality, but it was never real enough for me and didn't make enough sense to me that we have been left “on hold” for so long.

I became one of those who thought God must have used evolution to create mankind. Too bad the evidence doesn’t support that idea. I have been an unhappy “hybrid” for all these years. Now, after reading your book, I feel liberated! You have made all the pieces fall into place! If only people could have grasped the significance of the events of A.D. 70 at the time! Obviously I think your conclusions are plausible and probably correct. I say probably because it will take me a while to reprogram my thinking.

Anyway, I am already feeling less guilty about disappointing my parents for not being a proper Christian, and that is reason enough to thank you. Your point of view is so refreshing and important. I will be sending copies of your work and links to your website to all my friends. Everyone needs to read your work. I think raising the consciousness of all human beings to accept a new paradigm will take a long time, but I predict the future will eventually be a much better place because of your efforts.

By the way, my father has passed away so he no doubt knows the full truth in his new existence. As for my mother and others like her who are life-long devout Christians, she will probably not be receptive in this physical lifetime. I don’t imagine Islamic terrorists will be either. It is a shame that there has been and will continue to be for some time so much needless violence and hatred stemming from such false belief systems…

I will be reading more on your website and doing what I can. Keep up the good work and thanks again!

Sincerely,

Wade

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----

From: Patricia
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 5:44 PM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: Thank You

Dear Mr. Conway,

Last night, (June 6) I listened to your interview on Coast To Coast with George Noory. I can't tell you how thrilled I was to hear you express so clearly the "truths" I've also come to know through my many years of searching. I couldn't help but express my gratitude to God for allowing me to tune in when I did just in time to hear another person bear witness to my own thoughts. It was uplifting to say the least.

I am a 72 year old mother and grandmother. I am not a scholar, nor have I had the privilege of an extended education. What I do have is a love for the truth and a belief in our Creator, who I believe to be the God of Israel, though I am not Jewish. I believe the historical teachings in the Hebrew record, the Old Testament. I've spent many years in the Protestant Church and almost 20 years as a Jehovah's Witness. I left that organization in 1978 because it no longer made sense to me. All my life, I've searched for an understanding, never quite being satisfied, so I began a study on my own, without listening to anyone else's interpretation. As I studied the Old Testament with the New, many questions arose which the tenets of Christianity, nor it's scholars, satisfied. As I read more closely the words of Jesus in the Gospels, I found, as you did, that Jesus spoke to his followers in the present tense. On considering these things, I realized the warnings Jesus gave were to those present with Him, not to generations far off. The warnings would only make sense to those who were there with him, listening to his words. Naturally, with this realization, a whirlwind of questions began to form in my head. Could it be that the whole premise on which Christianity is built is wrong? Have we been deceiving ourselves? Had the Second Coming already taken place? That's a frightening question to answer with an unreserved and definite "yes" and an extremely lonely one. Still, I've come to believe the answer truly is that Jesus has already come back the second time and he's already taken with him those followers from earth who waited for him to return. I also believe this happened in the year 70 A.D. It's a subject difficult to introduce to a circle of believers. I knew I was learning something totally unheard of by many and would be unacceptable to most. Nevertheless, I couldn't deny what I learned. As I continued to read from the histories of Josephus and Tacitus, I found more convincing evidence, and the words of Jesus became more clear.

I want to thank you for writing The Awful Truth. I've not yet read it, but I look forward to it, knowing that what I've already heard from you bears witness with my spirit that it is truth. That is not to say I will agree with every point, however, it is a gift to me to hear someone describe so eloquently what I've come to understand through my own private study. Many words of Jesus are mysterious. Perhaps I will never understand their meaning completely. One of Jesus warnings that has concerned me is found in Matthew 7: 13, 14. Jesus said (paraphrasing) "few" would find the "narrow road" to life. In view of the thousands of congregations in Christendom and the various denominations through-out the world, it is a frightening thought that many of us may never find that "narrow road." My own research has led me to believe the Apostle Paul may have much to do with that fearful possibility. At this point, I'm still searching.

[These verses in Matthew apply exclusively to ancient Israel, and present no danger to modern mankind.]

Again, thank you so very much for sharing what you've learned. It has been a blessing to my life; one I didn't expect, but welcome with gratitude.

Sincerely,
Patricia

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: Gary
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:39 PM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: the awful truth

I was fortunate enough to get to speak to Mr. Conway in a chat room in 2001. (at least, he said he was and I believed him)

At that time you only offered the first chapter or so of the book, and it amazed and fascinated me. I was so pleased to see that the entire book is now available. After reading it and the reading it again, I am just as amazed as I was then, perhaps more so.

I have recommended www.realists.org to many. I often frequent religious chat rooms. It amazes me how closed minded people are regarding the realist movement. What amazes me more is, here is a book that tries to prove God's existence, backs up the bible, and denounces atheism and Darwinism, and yet, "Christians" seem to run away from it. That in itself shows me why this book is so historically important, and crucial for anyone searching for the truth of God.

Thank you Mr. Conway for your intense research and dedication. It would not surprise me if this information could perhaps stop so much killing in the World. Sadly, so few people seem to be able to read your work with an open mind. More's the pity.

On a personal note, I read the reviews of your book by someone else from Indiana, and they referred to Sen. Richard Lugar as a "good man". How ironic, considering he is a politician. Personally, I think politician and good man, when used together are oxy-morons. Kind of like, "honest lawyer" or "open minded Minister".

Thanks again!

Gary

 
 
 
 
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  -----Original Message-----
From: Claudia
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 4:48 PM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: Re: New Year's Message From The International Realists

Mr. Conway,

Best wishes for a new year filled with many discoveries. We bought your book and encourage others to do so.

Sincerely,

Claudia

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: PAULA
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 4:45 PM
To: realists@mindspring.com
Subject: The Wonderful Truth

Mr. Conway,

Thank you for your book and for offering people a chance to think about what the world is all about. The book nearly leaped out at me from the airport bookshelf. I was lucky enough to purchase a signed copy!

I studied physics in college and was always put off that there was always "one more unknown" that could not be explained mathematically. I had a fantastic professor who always offered the explanation that "it's not all for us to know" and that "a higher power" must have had something to do with it.

I grew up around the Methodist church, but I have always been leery of religion and all the rules that are part of it. I found Sylvia Brown's work to be especially reassuring and could not help thinking about how your book mirrors the teachings of Sylvia and her church of Gnostic Christians. I would be most interested to hear what the two of you think of each other's work. If you truly are about One God, One Truth...and I believe both of you are close to the Truth...your language should be able to be unified and your teachings united.

As a gymnastics teacher I have always seen my role as a supporter to the parents of my students. I have always felt that gymnastics was just a channel through which I could teach right and wrong. To me this has always meant doing as much good as possible and leaving no time for wrong.

I look forward to a response. Thank you.

Paula

Carmel, Indiana

PS - I have recommended your book to Senator Richard Lugar (Indiana). He is a wonderful man with a great sense of truth and I hope he will have a chance to look it over.

 
 
 
 
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  -----Original Message-----
From: Jarek
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:26 PM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject:

Could you put me on the Advanced Copy Readers please? Thank you very much for the book I received it and will send the money order as soon as possible. I am already done with about half the book and I cant put it down.

Thanks again,

Jerry

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: John
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 11:00 AM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: Advanced Copy Reader

Dear Mr. Conway

How soon are we talking about this next book? I've been an avid reader of your first book and am anxiously awaiting this next! Please put me on the list.

Regards John

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: karen
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:55 AM
To: realists@mindspring.com
Subject:

I have just finished reading The Awful Truth. I could not put it down. I was raised in the Catholic church with all the guilt it entails. I just want to express that this book is the most open and truthful thing I have ever read. My father, a Deacon in the church claims to be too old to change his point of view and that makes me sad - he wouldn't even look at the book. I am currently going through a lot of life changes and I just wanted Mr. Conway to know that his book has helped in ways I cannot explain. I don't necessarily agree with everything he says since I consider my personal relationship with God to be a real and physical thing but I understand that some of the most fanatical "Christians" question their belief since they haven't experienced this relationship.

I just wanted to say thanks.

 
 
 
 
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  -----Original Message-----
From: Morgan
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 5:30 PM
To: realists@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Questions

Dear Mr. Conway,

Thank you so much for responding to my inquiries. Your book has really rattled my cage. As a philosophy student in college and out, these questions have been in the forefront of my thoughts for as long as I can remember. You pinned me perfectly in your description of the fellow who walks the fence of science and religion by proclaiming that God's creation develops through evolution. But in the back of my mind there was always something that didn't quite resound with either one those paradigms--evolution & biblical accounts.

I have long wondered why the question of how civilization backslid from the ancient glories to the heinous Dark Ages has not been THE QUESTION addressed by scholars & clergy alike.

I have felt the need for a higher connection most of my life, & I'm not sure where your account leaves me . . . Despite my doubts & wandering faith, my life seems to run smoother with prayer & meditation. I have so many questions that I would like to ask you, but I'll ask just a few at this point: Are you equating the God of Abraham with the God of the Universe, or do you believe there is a higher, de-personalized Spirit of the Universe? Also, are you familiar with Z. Sitchin's work, & what do you think of it?

For your info, I got your book from my mother, who ordered it from Amazon. I will be forwarding your web site, as well as recommending your book to MANY folks--friends, family, & fellow seekers. Thank you again for your correspondence. I look forward to new developments, and have taken up research of my own.

Sincerely,

Morgan

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: Norton
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:53 PM
To: realists@mindspring.com
Subject: (no subject)

Hello.

I have read your book and found it absolutely compelling. Please keep me posted regarding further developments and dialogue of The Realists.

Sincerely,

Norton

 
 
 
 
 
 
  Dear Mr.Conway

Was refreshing to know that after all these year's of searching for some truth, there are people out there that reflect my beliefs...

If there is anything that I can do to promote the cause, I would be willing to do so...

I was at a chat room(beyond) when you or someone representing the Realists entered...

Sincerely,
Scott

 
 
 
 
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  Dear Mr. Conway,

I have just finished reading your book & it was one of the best books I've read in my 44 years on this Earth. Your concepts and insight are remarkable. I agree 100% with your views & conclusions.

I was left with a question, however. If we were in fact put here by God, & he has "left the planet", what are we left with? In which direction do we head? How do we select a criteria (religion?) for living? If "religion" & "science" aren't to be trusted, what do we "believe" in?

Thanks,

D.T. Smith
Minneapolis, MN.

 
 
 
 
 
 
  Dear Sirs:

I have read the book and believe that it does hit on some truths often overlooked by academia and theologians, perhaps intentionally overlooked or perhaps because the blinders they willingly wear wont let them see outside the box their arguments put them in. I do disagree with some of the conclusions of this book, but I expect that is natural in a work like this, I suspect that Mr. Conway would be pleased to know that his ideas have at least one person in the public considering things anew. Thank you for the excellent book. Will there be a sequel?

Sincerely

William

 
 
 
 
 
 
  Dear Patrick Conway,

Although I haven't read the complete work as of yet, I have studied chapter 2 and most of chapter 1.. Your ideas have taken my search for truth to new levels and have brought many things to my attention. eg. I have not of yet studied Darwin's Thesis in depth, but you have brought many errors to light on that subject. At the time of reading I was already familiar with the writings of Josephus, and have done some level of study relating to the Pyramid and the Inca civilization so I had a good basis for studying your theories.. You present your work in an easy to read manner, yet to the point, which will be enjoyed and studied by scholar and amateur alike. A notable achievement and I commend you on it.

Graeme

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: "Michel"
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:06:58 -0400
To: "Patrick Conway" (realists@mindspring.com)
Subject: About your book.......

M. Conway,

Allow me to first congratulate you for your well written book. Within one week I read the book because I couldn't let go of it ......I must admit that I agree almost 100% on what you say. However I have a feeling that we shall never know what really happened in the past.

 
 
 
 
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  -----Original Message-----
Organization: Inside Dentistry
Reply-To: "Kathy "
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 05:55:44 -0400
To: (realists@mindspring.com)
Subject: The Awful Truth

Dear Patrick,

I've just finished reading your book. It caught my eye at a bookstore at LaGuardia Airport.
I have a similar history with church and science. How to explain the differences to my two children....my own personal anger, growing up a Southern Baptist, having been taught the fear and playing the "vending machine God" game. As an adult, I am constantly searching for answers. Much of what you present rings true. I long ago abandoned any form of organized religion.

Obviously, I am recommending your book to everyone I know who is on a similar path...searching for truth.

Thank you for your work and your courage.
Warm Regards,
Kathy

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: "John A"
Organization: Home User
Reply-To: "John "
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:06:09 -0500
To: (realists@mindspring.com)
Subject: E-mail address update

Hi Patrick

Just been browsing your website, and am excited that you posted some messages from others! I think I'm about ready to purchase another book as this one is about to come apart from reading it constantly and carrying it with me where ever I go or work. Some of the pages are beginning to fall out and I have to try to keep them in order. I wouldn't hesitate to say it is the most used and abused book on my shelves or desk where ever it may lay!!!! Mainly I'm writing to update my e-mail address which has changed since my book purchase and small review I returned. I'm happy to hear of a possible forum or discussion in the works and please inform me when that is about to materialize. Thanks again and keep me posted.

Sincerely

John

 
 
 
 
 
 
  Hello Patrick,

I am not sure whether or not you are aware of this, but I am attending Princeton University right now. I began classes in January. I have had a bit of free time lately, so I read your book. I must say...amazing. It is truly a work of art, and I agree with everything you have written. It has become one of my favorite books, and I also consider it to be one of the most IMPORTANT books of the new century.

Thanks for your time,

Vince

 
 
 
 
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  -----Original Message-----
From: John
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 12:23:25 -0700 (PDT)
To: Patrick Conway (realists@mindspring.com)
Subject: Re: The Awful Truth

I read your book and thought it was well written and thoughtful. I cannot comment on whether or not I think the events predicted in Revelations already occurred with the fall of the mentioned temple and city as I haven't read the relevant chapters in Bible. When I have time I will get around to it. I had to disagree with the interpretation you gave of ancient civilizations: you stated that they were composed of slaves under bloodthirsty, sadistic and evil rulers. I would say, some, but not all, were this way. The Egyptian rulers for example weren't all evil. I think that some of these civilizations' peoples were composed of what Genesis 6:4 calls the "sons of God" or the "Nihilism". Further, from reading the Old Testament and the Book of Enoch we can see that some, but not all, of the Nihilism became evil.

 
 
 
 
 
 
  Mr. Conway,

I have been reading your book. I am impressed with how rational your hypothesis is (even though at first I thought it absurd).
If I may point out a big problem with the book (and it is just a matter of semantics), which if corrected will give you more academic grounding. Throughout the book you call the humans of the ancient world Neanderthals, and that is incorrect. Neanderthals are not homo sapien-sapien (humans). They are a different species of animal. By the time that the Ancient World was operating 8 - 4000BC, the Neanderthals were mostly if not entirely gone.
I have more to say about the book and the awful truth it proposes, but I am rereading the bible, and brushing up on my mythology first. You are a brave man, and your family sounds it too. Your work is important. I hope that realists are raising eyebrows.
I also hope to meet you in yahoo chat again so I may ask some questions directly to you.

Thank you for your efforts and sacrifices.
Mark

 
 
 
 
 
 
  Dear Mr. Conway,

I have completed your book "The Awful Truth" and found it to be extremely well articulated, researched and presented as a sound explanation for the general scheme of things. I was particularly intrigued by your version of the events in Jerusalem in AD 70 which I knew little about. I am consequently looking into this matter in more detail. One of the major issues I felt you did not address at all however, is that of the Ruach HaKodesh or "holy spirit of God" which is bestowed upon receptive people. And - along the same lines - negative spiritism such as séances, demon possession etc. I personally know people who have engaged in Séances and had inexplicable communications with supernatural beings - who were quite plainly manifesting themselves in this modern age.

I would be interested in your response.

Once again thank you for your book and congratulations on the elaborate and innovative job you have done with it.

 
 
 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: BILL
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 10:29 AM
To: Patrick Conway
Subject: Re: RE: RE: Hi Again Pat

Pat, I am truly enjoying all your sight has to offer. I am learning so much and I almost can't sleep at night. When I mention your findings to some of my "church" going friends they are telling me that I need to quit reading your stuff! I am beginning to believe what you are saying and it makes perfect sense. As I try to step outside of my Christian thinking and look at things in a realist's point of view I begin to see how strange and self-righteous we are. I go to a bible study every Monday night at a home and rather than doing a teaching we decided to pray and watch the Presidents speech on the war with Iraq. The prayer leader was praying that GOD would bless our troops and that thru this war let it be an open gate to spread your word to the LOST Muslims. And as that prayer was being spoken I began to think AH HA! Pat hit the head on the money! And I began to think about the 10 commandments that God gave to Moses! Thou shall have no other gods before me! Well there MUST have been other gods if God of Israel said that you are not to worship the "other gods" Right! Pat kudos to you! I have been a "born again" Christian since 1990. I had a very emotional experience when I became one but, as I am real with myself, I begin to understand it was emotion and humans are emotional beings.

I went to a Bible college in which we had many speakers claim to have seen blind eyes see, the lame walk, and people being raised from the dead. I have read Lester Summeral's book on deliverance and dealing with demonic forces, I use to be hard-core into pastors such as Rod Parsley, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, and world-renowned speakers. A lot of it is still in my head. I almost feel that 15 years of my life have been wasted away if this is absolutely true. But I can look at it as "a learning experience". Pat your book has been on my shelf for almost three years. During those years I have been scared to read it because I am having "fun" in my Christian circle but deep DEEP inside I know that this is possibly true. God couldn't be the creator of something as complicated and dividing as religion. And when I discuss the complications with fellow Christians there response is like "well Bill its not about religion its about relationship" or some witty one liner like that. I am a licensed minister and went to a Pentecostal bible college. I had a good time and made lots of friends and have some GREAT memories. But there were issues and a lot of self-righteousness there too. One of my buddies went to Lee College and because he was Episcopalian, they prayed for him outside his DORM room to be delivered. He was greatly persecuted. And eventually left. Pat, what about people like John Edwards being able to communicate with the deceased? You know like the Crossing Over TV shows where he is communicating with dead loved ones? Is there ANY validity to that at all? What is your opinion?

Concerning AD 70, I didn't even know of its existence until I talked with a Preterest friend who pretty much convinced me that Armageddon had already taken place, but that was NOT yet the return of the Messiah. Thank you for writing your book and I may have some other writings in my library that concur with what you are saying. I have a book that talks about how when the battle of AD 70 occurred the Christians supposedly "Hid in the hills" not to return. I find that sentence awfully peculiar. And when did the DARK ages begin?

What happened in AD 71? What happened to the Mayans that were under the Tyranny of the gods? Anyway, please answer when you have the time and thank you for helping me out. This has been a life changing experience for me; and I thank you for what you are doing and I know you have had to put up with a lot of persecution for it. AND by the way, I was wondering if I could get permission from you if I could DOWNLOAD your interview in Irvine AND the other Radio interview and burn them on a CD to give to some of my friends? I could possibly give you at least a donation if it's a yes. - Thanks again

In Friendship as well,
Bill

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: KingOfAllFools
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: reviews

I noticed that your site does not have a link for readers to send reviews of their own. I find that interesting, considering you ( I can only assume it was the real author of this book in chat ) asked me to go ahead and make a review. I read your site and book, you may remember me, I am a geologist. Your emperical evidence section was quite amusing. Your conclusions are some of the worst psuedo-scientific tripe. You site not one fact that can be supported scientifically, only by you making the assumption that "gods must have done it."

I imagine that readers are not allowed to make reviews because your site would be replete with unfavorable reviews. I did note that your UCI review was audio only. I figured that I would not be satisfied with this review, as you were touting it in chat. This audio could simply be you and your gardener for all anyone knows.

I wonder why you call everyone involved in science and atheist, not all are. You seem to have some major issues. Also, I noticed that your "criticisms answered" section was entirely YOUR words...not those of others. Are you in the practice of self criticizing?

Oh well, you asked for me to review your book and site, and here it is...from 1 to 10, 10 being best...I gave it a 2. 2 mainly because the grammar and spelling were on a high level. You research and study of ancient cultures was less than worthy of print.

J. J....
Geologist

Author’s note: I posted this “review,” even though it is mostly a personal attack, because it does have one criticism of the actual work.

My position that gods created the sophisticated civilizations of the ancient world is based on thousands of years of history. Those chronologies, from every continent of the globe, were written by meticulous scribes and historians who were on the scene. They clearly state that they were interacting with supernatural forces called “gods.” The artifacts and ruins support their claim.

I was excited by the “2” the "reviewer" gave for spelling and grammar, until I realized his review had two spelling errors and several grammatical mistakes.

See "emperical evidence" and "psuedo-scientific."

I suppose we should not rate a geologist on his spelling and grammar; notwithstanding, a review should be based on the merits, and more than merely personal attack. As to my “gardener” being on the UCI interview, he is male and barely speaks English. The moderator is female and has wonderful diction.

 
 
 
 
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: Foreword Magazine
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:19 AM
To: pjconway@realists.org
Subject: The Awful Truth

Author Patrick Conway has bold ideas about the meaning of human existence in the universe and he wastes no time in getting right to the point in his book The Awful Truth.

"We are not evolving primates, nor under the care of a personal God!" he states emphatically in the Preface. "These conflicting intellectual concepts are inherently flawed; neither will survive as a viable explanation for human existence because they do not describe the reality in which we live."

The theory that we grew from the apes is false, Conway says, in part because all other creatures live in harmony with nature, except man. Creationism doesn't pass muster either because throughout its history, the Christian Church has made it a practice to simply choose to negate any new scientific discoveries that might weaken the faith of its followers.

While this book allows a committed belief in God, it is a belief that includes the idea that God has completed his experiment with conscious life on earth, and has ended his communication with us except through the Bible.

"The Awful Truth" of the title is Conway's assertion that visiting alien forces, climactic change, disease and immorality have all contributed to a collapse of a perfect, ancient world and also in making man the flawed being he is today.

In defense of his argument, Conway details historic assumptions of the greatest magnitude which we now know turned out to be false: for example, the earth was once believed to be the center of the universe.

Conway's writing is clear and surprisingly easy to understand, considering the weighty issues he examines. He is at his best debunking both science and religion, though flaws appear when he analysizes historical happenings like the Holocaust, the Arab/Israel conflict, and the World Wars. More than a few short pages are needed to fully grasp the significance of these events.

This author should be commended for daring to struggle with these issues, even if the reader doesn't always agree with his theories. He is correct in one important regard: Man still hasn't embraced his role as ruler of life on our fragile planet.

-A.D. Larsen
ForeWordreviews.com

 
 
 
 
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